The myth of a fascist Quebec - Revision history

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	* ''[[Was Quebec fascist in 1942?]]'', by Jacques Rouillard, November 1996		* ''[[Was Quebec fascist in 1942?]]'', by Jacques Rouillard, November 1996

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	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* ''[[Was Quebec fascist in 1942?]]'', by Jacques Rouillard, November 1996		* ''[[Was Quebec fascist in 1942?]]'', by Jacques Rouillard, November 1996

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	{{title\|The ~~myth~~ of a ~~fascist~~ Quebec\|[[Luc Chartrand]]\|in ''L'actualité'', March 1st 1997<br /><br />Translated by [[User:Mathieugp\|Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote]]}}		{{title\|The Myth of a Fascist Quebec\|[[Luc Chartrand]]\|in ''L'actualité'', March 1st 1997<br /><br />Translated by [[User:Mathieugp\|Mathieu Gauthier-Pilote]]}}

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Mathieugp: /* The Enquiry */

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The Enquiry

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	* [[Wikipedia:Paul Gouin\|Paul Gouin]], of Montréal		* [[Wikipedia:Paul Gouin\|Paul Gouin]], of Montréal

	Esther Delisle unearthed this report in the files of the [[w:United States Department of State\|Department of State]], in [[w:Washington, D.C.\|Washington]]. By chance, she assures us. But "thanks to archivist John E. Taylor, grand guru of the files of the CIA and the OSS [[[w:Office of Strategic Services\|Office of Strategic Services]], the ancestor of the CIA ]", while she was researching on the presence in Quebec of Nazi collaborators. "I baptized "Delisle Law", says she as a joke, this phenomenon by which while seeking files, one never finds what one thought of finding but often finds things even more interesting!"		Esther Delisle unearthed this report in the files of the [[w:United States Department of State\|Department of State]], in [[w:Washington, D.C.\|Washington]]. By chance, she assures us. But "thanks to archivist John E. Taylor, grand guru of the files of the CIA and the OSS [ [[w:Office of Strategic Services\|Office of Strategic Services]] ], the ancestor of the CIA ]", while she was researching on the presence in Quebec of Nazi collaborators. "I baptized "Delisle Law", says she as a joke, this phenomenon by which while seeking files, one never finds what one thought of finding but often finds things even more interesting!"

	But the one by whom the historical scandal arrives had up to now had much trouble rallying historians to her analysis. Esther Delisle is not shy to associate the French-Canadian nationalism of the Thirties and Forties with Nazism, and she describes the movement against conscription (the compulsory enrolment) as "a smoke screen of national-socialism".		But the one by whom the historical scandal arrives had up to now had much trouble rallying historians to her analysis. Esther Delisle is not shy to associate the French-Canadian nationalism of the Thirties and Forties with Nazism, and she describes the movement against conscription (the compulsory enrolment) as "a smoke screen of national-socialism".

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The Enquiry

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	''The [[w:Jean-Louis Roux\|Roux Affair]] resurrected, everywhere in Canada, the prejudice whereby the Quebec of the 30s and 40s was antisemitic and fascist. ''L'actualité'' magazine enquired on the topic.''		''The [[w:Jean-Louis Roux\|Roux Affair]] resurrected, everywhere in Canada, the prejudice whereby the Quebec of the 30s and 40s was antisemitic and fascist. L'actualité magazine enquired on the topic.''

	The last discovery of historian [[Wikipedia:Esther Delisle\|Esther Delisle]] will give ulcers to her colleagues: during the [[Wikipedia:Conscription Crisis of 1944\|conscription crisis of 1942]], the [[Wikipedia:CIA\|American]] and [[Wikipedia:Canadian Security Intelligence Service\|Canadian secret services]] were convinced that some noted nationalist leaders from Quebec, including abbot [[Wikipedia:Lionel Groulx\|Lionel Groulx]], were conspiring in a clandestine pro-[[w:Nazi\|Nazi]] organization baptized "Garde de Fer" (Iron Guard)!		The last discovery of historian [[Wikipedia:Esther Delisle\|Esther Delisle]] will give ulcers to her colleagues: during the [[Wikipedia:Conscription Crisis of 1944\|conscription crisis of 1942]], the [[Wikipedia:CIA\|American]] and [[Wikipedia:Canadian Security Intelligence Service\|Canadian secret services]] were convinced that some noted nationalist leaders from Quebec, including abbot [[Wikipedia:Lionel Groulx\|Lionel Groulx]], were conspiring in a clandestine pro-[[w:Nazi\|Nazi]] organization baptized "Garde de Fer" (Iron Guard)!

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Mathieugp: /* 1837-1937: "We will have our French State" */

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1837-1937: "We will have our French State"

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	This speech of Groulx, which several people regard as the most important of his career (fundamentally, it resembles any of the others), has nothing to do with a heinous harangue and resembles, as much by the tone as by the constitutional orientation, of the “quoi qu'on dise et quoi qu'on fasse” of Robert Bourassa...		This speech of Groulx, which several people regard as the most important of his career (fundamentally, it resembles any of the others), has nothing to do with a heinous harangue and resembles, as much by the tone as by the constitutional orientation, of the “quoi qu'on dise et quoi qu'on fasse” of Robert Bourassa...

	~~«La Confédération~~, ~~nous en sommes~~, ~~mais pourvu qu'elle reste une confédération~~ [...]. La bonne entente, ~~certes~~, ~~j'en suis~~ [...]. ~~Mais la~~ bonne entente ~~que je veux~~, c'~~est la~~ bonne entente ~~à deux~~. La bonne entente ~~debout~~. ~~Pas une~~ bonne entente ~~de dupes. Pas une bonne entente à n~~'~~importe quel prix~~: doctrine ~~de dégradation~~, ~~où tout notre rôle consiste à émoucher le~~ lion; ~~mais la~~ bonne entente ~~fondée sur le~~ respect ~~mutuel~~, ~~sur l'égalité des droits~~. [...]		“The Confederation, we support it, so long as it remains a confederation [...]. The ''bonne entente'', certainly, I am for it [...]. But the ''bonne entente'' I want, is a two-way relationship. It is the ''bonne entente'' on its feet. Not a ''bonne entente'' for the easily deceived. Not a ''bonne entente'' at any cost: doctrine of degradation, where all of our role consists in keeping the flies away from the lion; but a ''bonne entente'' based on mutual respect, on equal rights. [...]

	~~«À nos compatriotes de l'autre origine et de l'autre~~ culture, ~~je tiendrais~~ [...] ~~ce langage~~, ~~que je n'estime ni~~ impertinent, ~~ni audacieux~~, ~~encore moins injuste~~: "~~Nous sommes ici deux~~ races, ~~deux~~ cultures, ~~destinées à vivre l'une à côté de l'autre~~, ~~à collaborer au bien commun de notre~~ province ~~et de notre pays~~. ~~Vous~~, anglophones, ~~êtes fiers de votre sang~~, ~~de votre histoire~~, ~~de votre civilisation~~; et, ~~pour servir le plus efficacement~~ possible ~~ce pays~~, ~~votre~~ ambition ~~est de vous développer dans le sens de vos innéités culturelles~~, ~~d'être anglais jusqu'aux moelles~~. [...] ~~D'autre part~~, ~~aussi fiers de notre passé~~, ~~de notre sang de notre~~ culture ~~que vous l'êtes des vôtres~~, ~~nous prétendons que notre droit est égal au vôtre~~."[...]		“To our compatriots of the other origin and the other culture, I would hold [...] this language, that I consider neither impertinent, nor daring, even less unjust: "We are here two races, two cultures, destined to live side by side, to collaborate in the common good our province and our country. You, anglophones, are proud of your blood, your history, your civilization; and, to serve this country as effectively as possible, your ambition is to develop yourself in the direction of your cultural inneities, to be English all the way down to the marrows. [...] Likewise, as proud of our past, our blood of our culture as you are of yours, we claim that our right is equal to yours." [...]

	~~«Qu'on le veuille ou qu'on ne le veuille pas~~, ~~notre État français~~, ~~nous l'aurons~~; ~~nous l'aurons jeune~~, ~~fort~~, ~~rayonnant et beau~~, ~~foyer spirituel~~, ~~pôle dynamique de toute l'Amérique française~~. [...] ~~Les~~ snobs, ~~les~~ bon-ententistes, ~~les défaitistes peuvent nous crier~~, ~~tant qu'ils voudront~~: "~~Vous êtes la dernière génération de Canadiens français~~!" ~~Je leur réponds avec toute la jeunesse~~: "~~Nous sommes la génération des vivants~~. ~~Vous êtes la dernière génération des morts~~!"»		“Whether or not others want it, our French State, we will have; we will have it young, strong, radiant and beautiful, spiritual hearth, dynamic pole of all French America. [...] The snobs, the bon-ententistes, the defeatists can shout, as much as they want: "You are the last generation of French Canadians!" I answer them with all the youth: "We are the generation of the living. You are the last generation of the dead!"”

	~~La foule du~~ Colisée ~~explosa «comme la lave d'une bouche de volcan»~~, ~~écrira~~ Groulx ~~plusieurs décennies plus tard~~. ~~«J'ai compris~~, ~~ce soir-là~~, ~~jusqu'où peuvent aller les entraînements d'une foule qui n'attend que l'occasion de manifester~~.»		The crowd of the Colisée exploded "as lava from the mouth of a volcano", wrote Groulx several decades later. "I understood, that night, how far can go the movement of a crowd waiting for the time to manifest itself.»

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	* Gaboury, Jean-Pierre (1970). ''Le Nationalisme de Lionel Groulx: aspects idéologiques'', Ottawa: Éditions de l'Université d'Ottawa		* Gaboury, Jean-Pierre (1970). ''Le Nationalisme de Lionel Groulx: aspects idéologiques'', Ottawa: Éditions de l'Université d'Ottawa
	* Groulx, Lionel (1972). ''Mes Mémoires, tome 3'', 1926-1939, Montréal, Fides, 1972.		* Groulx, Lionel (1972). ''Mes Mémoires, tome 3'', 1926-1939, Montréal, Fides, 1972.
	* Langlais, David and David Rome (1986). ''Juifs et Québécois français: 200 ans d'histoire commune'', Montréal: Fides		* Langlais, David and David Rome (1986). ''Juifs et Québécois français: 200 ans d'histoire commune'', Montréal: Fides ([http://books.google.ca/books?id=qQLpVlQ61DMC Excerpts in English])
	* Rome, David (1977). ''Clouds in the Thirties: On Antisemitism in Canada, 1929-1939'', Montréal: Canadian Jewish Archives		* Rome, David (1977). ''Clouds in the Thirties: On Antisemitism in Canada, 1929-1939'', Montréal: Canadian Jewish Archives

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